diff --git a/README b/README
index 62728f5..e7ce184 100644
--- a/README
+++ b/README
@@ -338,6 +338,10 @@ jtag solution is the most powerful and useful.  My typical setup is the
 armjtag binary as kernel.img, a usb to jtag board like the amontec
 jtag-tiny and a usb to serial using minicom.
 
+Update, amontec is history their website is gone.  But you can
+get j-link (or clone) boxes from asia on ebay for around $11, so far
+I have tried them with ARM JTAG and ARM SWD.  Very pleased so far.
+
 If you can solder, the A+, B+, Zero and Pi 2 all have a pair of holes
 sometimes with the text RUN next to them.  I use buttons like this
 https://www.sparkfun.com/products/97
diff --git a/armjtag/README b/armjtag/README
index b359740..a059059 100644
--- a/armjtag/README
+++ b/armjtag/README
@@ -472,3 +472,18 @@ replace amontec.cfg with one of the other files or make your own.
 
 
 
+Update: amontec is history their website is gone.  But you can
+get j-link (or clone) boxes from asia on ebay for around $11, so far
+I have tried them with ARM JTAG and ARM SWD.  Very pleased so far.
+YMMV.
+
+As of this writing the signalyer at least the $50 one is long gone
+that company still makes something but it is pricy.  flyswatter?
+I think they are still out there.  Bus pirate, still out there, I
+think I got a $18 one on ebay and I think it works fine for jtag
+as well, the serial port i didnt get figured out, some soldering
+required.  (the j-link, no soldering required).  And the FT2232H
+and 4232 mini modules should still be out there too, have to use
+a number of jumpers to get VDDIO and such powered.
+
+